we have technology companies telling us that the national security agency should start spying, which is what they have been doing and mining data for years without anyone's permission. talk to facebook, talk to google. this is crazy stuff. and there's omething that's about to come to market, which is a brand-new way of doing e-mail and i fear hear that these guys are going to do a kickstart process and that they are doing something where it never sits on a server and it's constantly moving kind of like this with the russian trains and the nukes. >> i'm trying to understand what that all men. >> it's good for the nsa. they get kicked around a lot and that is good. and they wouldn't be there along with all the other alphabets in the soup otherwise. they are in the public sphere and people are going to see it and that's why you're out in the public square and i give the nsa kudos. it's li i'm saying you shouldn't of been flying on that flight academ even though there was a whistleblower saying that we have to learn how to not land this plane. lou: i'm trying to understand how the countr